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Over the past few years I have been a been a member of Capture Minnesota. Mostly as an observer and not so much as a participant... I noticed recently that the web site has been closed... I am wondering two things. Does anyone know why CM was closed? And is the same fate awaiting Capture Wisconsin? Anyone know what's going on?

As a past member of Capture my Chicago for almost 6 years they also closed after 10 or more years. No Idea why but was told that probably others will at sometime close.

I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person who took a couple minutes before joining to look up Pediment Publishing on Google and gain an understanding of the company, their business model and what I was getting involved in. It's really quite brilliant, and I've told them that several times. But it's been quite clear over the years that most of the participants don't have the slightest idea of what this is all about. Once you know that, it's pretty easy to figure out why CM and CDC were shut down.

Bill: What is their business model ?

Just guessing here Bill... Wondering if they set up sites like this to get material for their publishing empire... If so it is pretty shady... I hope it wasn't that. I am not as a savvy reasearcher as you but I wonder if they are getting nervous about copyrights.... What do you think?

They make their money selling books full of content that people willingly give them for nothing. In this case, they primarily sell it back to the people who created it. Before the Capture sites, most of their products were community oriented and relied on content from newspaper and historical society archives. I don't see it as shady - I see the participants as gullible for inventing a myth that this all existed for some altruistic purpose. It only took me 5 minutes to Google the company, look at their product lines, understand what I was getting into, and decide whether, on the whole, it was worth doing. And I decided to play. I learned about countless interesting locations, met a few people, and discovered some good work that I learned from. But the site tagline says it all - this is the best of Wisconsin in photography. It's not the best photography of Wisconsin. If it was, the model might have succeeded.

i was a member of cm and cd. cd never really had a huge membership that posted. for a short while it filled more than one page of recent photo's, but shrunk back down to a page or a half page per day. they just couldn't justify the work involved to keep it up and running. cm was a little different, from what i understood. it had a very large membership involvement with up to 15 to 20 pages of recents per day. but some members thought it was their responsibility to make rude comments to others. i had a member message me and vent on how she was being attacked about how the only reason she got votes was because she was popular. (some people can't break away from high school) she was popular because she was one of the nicest people i know! she vote and commented on everyone's photo's with the kindest comments. and she was an excellent photographer to boot! and i saw and heard more of those types of situations that lead her and others to pack up and leave. maybe it was too big for it's own good? another reason (and i heard it from the horses mouth) is that cm would use certain peoples images for the new book online promotion, but wouldn't publish the same person in the book. bad feelings lead those leaving. now that was their choice, but as time went on, people just got frustrated and left, or bored and left, or just didn't have or take the time to upload. after a while it was the same core people at the end that would upload, vote and comment. now i don't know if those were the main reason's? but it did seem odd that they closed the doors very soon after the last book release. i was in the last 3 books and with the very last book they didn't have a book release party with everyone invited. everyone thought it was a little odd. and (this is a rumor, so shame on me) i heard there was some sort of legal issue that caused them to close down? again, speculation. now there is a cm underground group that meets regularly in the cities because of the friendships made through the common bond in photography. i do miss cm and cd! i too have made some good friends through the site, and learned quite a bit because of it. hopefully cw will stay intact. but not everything is meant to last...... i do stop here time to time, but life changes, you get busy, and sometime just forget.

scott